Village of Sugar Grove

Special Meeting

Village Board and the S.G. Plan Commission/Zoning Board of Appeals

January 15th, 2003

6:00 P.M.

President Michels opened the Meeting of the Board of Trustees at 6:00 p.m. and Plan Commission Chairman Irv Oschenschlager opened the Plan Commission. President Michels then asked Chairman Ochschenschlager lead the Pledge of Allegiance. President Michels then asked that Acting Village Clerk call the roll for both the Board and the Commission.

Present:

President Michels, Trustee Geary (6:10), Trustee Johnson, Trustee Renk, Trustee Bohler, Trustee Clark, Chairman Ochsenschlager, Commissioner Schiber, Commissioner Saloga, Commissioner Reuland, Commissioner Benesch, and Commissioner Dray.

Absent:

Trustee Williams, Commissioner McKnight.

Also Present:

Village Administrator Brent Eichelberger, Clerk Cynthia Welsch, and Community Development Director Scott Buening.

New Business

Clubland Development Discussion, Prairie Street west of IL Route 47, (Neumann Homes)

Community Development Director Buening stated that the petitioner, Neumann Homes, had requested this meeting so that the same presentation could be given to both the Village Board and the Plan Commission. Director Buening then introduced Mr. Bill Anner of Neumann Homes.

Mr. Anner stated that his overview would brief, as the reason for the meeting was to gather input and comments from the Board and the Commission. Mr. Anner stated that the total area is 900 acres and that Neumann Homes is proposing to bring in the whole area what time so that the open space requirement of 40% could be met with the placement of a golf club. The development would encompass three different types of housing, extend Municipal Drive with an overpass over the railroad, and realign Prairie Street. One of developments as proposed would be a neo-traditional style home with some lots at 6,000 square feet. Other areas will be set-aside for custom builders.

President Michels asked if any commercial was being proposed and how can the plan show lot size to be determined?

Mr. Anner answered that Neumann Homes was looking at commercial and the lot size to be determined is because the product built would determine the lot size. President Michels suggested that commercial such as stores with residential above be considered.

Trustee Renk asked if alleys would be used to create a town square and if the development would be built in phase. Mr. Anner stated that alleys’ would most likely not be used. The development would be built in phase with a project 10-year build out as it is estimated that there will be 2,100 homes. The first phase would be that that is nearest the existing sewer line, as a lift station needs to be built.

Trustee Johnson asked if 1st street would be extended. Mr. Anner stated that the extension is shown, however, Neumann Homes does not have control of the parcel that would be need to a complete extension. Trustee Johnson stated that she was in full support of the realignment of Prairie Street.

Trustee Bohler stated that the realignment of Prairie Street would be the key to his approval of the development.

Commissioner Dray asked if the roads would be private of public and to what specifications they would be built. Mr. Anner stated at this time public roads are shown built to current subdivision control standards.

Commissioner Schiber stated that he would not like to see the alleys. The Village of Oswego has them in a development and wished they had not approved the use of them. Mr. Anner stated that alleys are not proposed. Commissioner Schiber asked how Neumann Homes would compensate for the loss of the commercial area that is shown on the Comprehensive Land Use Plan. Mr. Anner stated that no compensation has been consider as commercial in the area is not viable.

President Michels stated that the area that is "commercial" is not commercial in the written plan; it was designated as a transportation (Metra) area, which Metra has indicated will not happen. President Michels stated that although he does agree that some commercial needs to be incorporated as he previously stated.

Commissioner Schiber stated that if and when the property currently under control by Mr. Rich develops the Board should not allow it also to be developed as residential.

Trustee Clark stated that Municipal Drive is a key to this proposal and that he agrees with the commercial area being needed.

Trustee Geary stated that the CCI Downtown Development Committee has recommended to the CCI steering committee that the downtown area be brought back as commercial.

Trustee Johnson asked that a library sight be considered. Mr. Anner stated that Neumann Homes is open to that suggestion. President Michels asked that Neumann Homes contact the Rockford Diocese as they are looking to place a Catholic Church in the area and that they contact the Kane County Forest Preserve District as they are looking to acquire more land in the area and may be of help in acquiring the stand of trees that is adjacent to the stand of trees in the Neumann Homes parcel.

Commissioner Benesch asked that no double fronted lots be allowed.

Trustee Bohler asked how soon Municipal Drive would be connected. Mr. Anner stated that Neumann Homes is looking at various funding mechanism for this project such as federal and state funds. The timing is not known at this time.

Trustee Johnson asked if a trail system would be in the development. Mr. Anner stated yes.

President Michels stated (and Commissioner Saloga concurred) that the minimum lot frontage should be 85 for any area shown as "custom". President Michels further suggested that Neumann Homes speak with area custom homebuilders. Mr. Anner stated that the lots are shown at a 90-frontage minimum and that Neumann Homes would be glad to speak with builders.

Trustee Johnson asked that Mr. Anner explain some of the codes on the plan. Mr. Anner explained that RV is a ranch villa, which is aimed at the senior population, THF is a town home, CY is a courtyard home, and SF is single family. Trustee Johnson asked if there were to be any age restricted communities. Mr. Anner stated no, President Michels asked that an age-restricted community be looked at. Mr. Anner stated that at this time the housing type that is needed in Sugar Grove, according to Neumann Homes market study is a mixed use and that age restricted housing is not viable at this time.

Commissioner Saloga asked that design guidelines be put in place, especially in the custom home area.

Trustee Johnson asked if the berming/buffering for Route 47 and the Railroad tracks. Mr. Anner stated that this has been addressed it is just hard to notice on the plan because of the small scale of the plan.

Commissioner Saloga suggested and the Boards concurred that having Municipal Drive be a tree lined boulevard would be a nice addition.

President Michels asked if everyone was comfortable with 2.3 units per acre as suggested. The 2.3 seems to be a fair amount considering the improvements to be made in the area and that the open space requirement is met.

President Michels asked if any scenic vistas were to be created in the development. Mr. Anner answered yes.

Commissioner Schiber asked what type of transition to the next development would be considered. If Town homes would be allowed to back up to the bigger lots because of the sewer expansion needs. President Michels stated that this should be addressed in the Comprehensive Land Use Plan; however, it is his hopes that the outer ring housing "the signature community" sets the tone for future development.

Trustee Clark again reiterated that the Village’s services are stretched to the limit and commercial growth is needed.

Stan Anderson, resident, asked if the Roy Roy Drainage area of which this area is a part of has been considered. Mr. Anner stated that extensive research and planning has been done in the Rob Roy Drainage District and the affects of this development on the district.

President Michels asked that any further comments from the Village Board or the Plan Commission be given to Director Buening within 2 weeks of this meeting.

Director Buening asked that a special meeting be scheduled for February 19th at 6:00 p.m. to discuss another development. Both the Commission and the Board agreed.

President Michels then called for a motion of adjournment for the Board meeting. Trustee Geary moved to adjourn. Trustee Bohler seconded the motion. Plan Commission Chairman called for a five-minute recess of the Plan Commission before convening to the regularly scheduled Plan Commission. The meeting of the Village Board was adjourned at 7:05 p.m.

Respectfully submitted,

Cynthia L. Welsch, Acting Village Clerk

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